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		<title>Comment on Sustainable development must become &#8220;business as usual&#8221; by bali</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 01:23:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for the info and advice.  All your input is helpful, even if at times it may not seem relevant to our situation but it allows us a chance to look at the issues from a different perspective.  We are dealing with putting the &quot;theory into practice&quot; and that&#039;s where the difficulty and frustration emerges.  In the end all the advice has relevance, it&#039;s really our task to see where the links connect and how to move forward.

We will follow up on your suggestions and see where that leads us and keep you informed.

Thanks again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the info and advice.  All your input is helpful, even if at times it may not seem relevant to our situation but it allows us a chance to look at the issues from a different perspective.  We are dealing with putting the &#8220;theory into practice&#8221; and that&#8217;s where the difficulty and frustration emerges.  In the end all the advice has relevance, it&#8217;s really our task to see where the links connect and how to move forward.</p>
<p>We will follow up on your suggestions and see where that leads us and keep you informed.</p>
<p>Thanks again.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sustainable development must become &#8220;business as usual&#8221; by Phill</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 08:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While tourism is an important part of the economy in many countries the downside can be that reliance on the tourist dollar leads to an acceptance of poor standards and the overexploitation of resources and people. International companies are, to a great extent, dependent on their good name in the tourist market, so ‘naming and shaming’ can be an effective weapon against their wrongdoings but, as you rightly say, the process can be self-defeating if it simply results in the company moving its operations elsewhere. There can also be important repercussions for the person or people doing the ‘naming and shaming’.

What I would like to suggest you do is to contact the company or companies concerned and make them aware of the problem. If they don’t respond adequately, then approach the relevant local or national government authority that has competence in the area you are concerned about and if that still doesn’t work, alert the local or national press. But in your circumstances you will probably dismiss that advice as naïve or impossible so I suggest instead that you approach the UK-based charity Tourism Concern. You can find them on the web at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tourismconcern.org.uk&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.tourismconcern.org.uk&lt;/a&gt; and if you look through their archive of past projects you might find something that resonates with your situation. They say that,

&lt;em&gt;Campaigning is our core activity. We respond to requests for help from individuals, communities and groups from all over the world who are challenging the damage to their interests caused by the development of tourism.&lt;/em&gt;

You can contact them through their website or directly; contact details are on the site. They have a good record of international campaigning and activity and are supported by well-known campaigners like Naomi Klein. 

I hope that link is helpful and if you follow it up please let us know how you get on. Feel free to tell Tourism Concern that we recommended them to you. If there is anything you think we can help you with specifically you can email me directly at &lt;a href=&quot;mailto:pmarston@thisd.org&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;pmarston@thisd.org&lt;/a&gt;. We will not reveal your name to any third party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While tourism is an important part of the economy in many countries the downside can be that reliance on the tourist dollar leads to an acceptance of poor standards and the overexploitation of resources and people. International companies are, to a great extent, dependent on their good name in the tourist market, so ‘naming and shaming’ can be an effective weapon against their wrongdoings but, as you rightly say, the process can be self-defeating if it simply results in the company moving its operations elsewhere. There can also be important repercussions for the person or people doing the ‘naming and shaming’.</p>
<p>What I would like to suggest you do is to contact the company or companies concerned and make them aware of the problem. If they don’t respond adequately, then approach the relevant local or national government authority that has competence in the area you are concerned about and if that still doesn’t work, alert the local or national press. But in your circumstances you will probably dismiss that advice as naïve or impossible so I suggest instead that you approach the UK-based charity Tourism Concern. You can find them on the web at <a href="http://www.tourismconcern.org.uk" rel="nofollow">http://www.tourismconcern.org.uk</a> and if you look through their archive of past projects you might find something that resonates with your situation. They say that,</p>
<p><em>Campaigning is our core activity. We respond to requests for help from individuals, communities and groups from all over the world who are challenging the damage to their interests caused by the development of tourism.</em></p>
<p>You can contact them through their website or directly; contact details are on the site. They have a good record of international campaigning and activity and are supported by well-known campaigners like Naomi Klein. </p>
<p>I hope that link is helpful and if you follow it up please let us know how you get on. Feel free to tell Tourism Concern that we recommended them to you. If there is anything you think we can help you with specifically you can email me directly at <a href="mailto:pmarston@thisd.org" rel="nofollow">pmarston@thisd.org</a>. We will not reveal your name to any third party.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sustainable development must become &#8220;business as usual&#8221; by bali</title>
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		<dc:creator>bali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 09:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very well stated and I agree with you almost entirely.  But the call for better enforcement  or better legislation is an old worn statement that results in nothing changing. It doesn&#039;t work in countries with weak institution that are corruption and apathetic.

In the end they should be &#039;named and shamed&#039;.  It is criminal what they do. But can you be more specific in what manner should they be &#039;named and shamed&#039;?  

Because it doesn&#039;t always work.  It might bring attention to the problem, but that&#039;s it.  An article in the paper, story on the news, but any reaction or action is often ignore or superficially dealt with by local government or the industry.

Also in some instances it results in a region or tourism area getting a bad reputation through the actions of a few or even single violator, but is that a short term price to pay for a long term correction of the problem.

Can you suggest effective ways to &#039;name and shame&#039;?  Are there examples that have really worked?

Maybe the enforcement does not need to come from the government but from within the industry, i.e. travel companies, airlines and even the guests.  But how do you do that without hurting the industry you are actually trying to protect and develop sustainably? 

And there&#039;s a problem, there is an unwritten rule to never disparage or negatively represent the tourism market in which you operate.  So how can you effectively &#039;name and shame&#039; without shooting yourself in the foot in the process?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very well stated and I agree with you almost entirely.  But the call for better enforcement  or better legislation is an old worn statement that results in nothing changing. It doesn&#8217;t work in countries with weak institution that are corruption and apathetic.</p>
<p>In the end they should be &#8216;named and shamed&#8217;.  It is criminal what they do. But can you be more specific in what manner should they be &#8216;named and shamed&#8217;?  </p>
<p>Because it doesn&#8217;t always work.  It might bring attention to the problem, but that&#8217;s it.  An article in the paper, story on the news, but any reaction or action is often ignore or superficially dealt with by local government or the industry.</p>
<p>Also in some instances it results in a region or tourism area getting a bad reputation through the actions of a few or even single violator, but is that a short term price to pay for a long term correction of the problem.</p>
<p>Can you suggest effective ways to &#8216;name and shame&#8217;?  Are there examples that have really worked?</p>
<p>Maybe the enforcement does not need to come from the government but from within the industry, i.e. travel companies, airlines and even the guests.  But how do you do that without hurting the industry you are actually trying to protect and develop sustainably? </p>
<p>And there&#8217;s a problem, there is an unwritten rule to never disparage or negatively represent the tourism market in which you operate.  So how can you effectively &#8216;name and shame&#8217; without shooting yourself in the foot in the process?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sustainable development must become &#8220;business as usual&#8221; by Phill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 13:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We were at the UN World Tourism Organisation conference in Davos, Switzerland in 2007 where a delegate from the Pacific islands made a plea that any suggestions to restrict travel through carbon taxes or carbon trading, in order to reduce GHG emissions, should include exemptions in the case of developing countries, as tourism is such an important conduit for redistributing wealth to them.

My point above, in this context, is that what the rich world does in terms of controlling GHG emissions will have an immediate impact on the economies of many developing countries and so must be taken into account in any overview of the sustainability of the industry in those countries.

Having said that, you are right to point out that companies that proclaim their &#039;green credentials&#039; must make sure that the standards they say they work to are applied in all their operations, not just in those where there is a level of enforcement that ensures compliance. 

In western Europe and North America hotel companies have realised the cost-saving value of many environmentally-friendly initiatives. It makes sense to save water and power when you pay by the cubic metre or the kilowatt hour. It makes sense to compact your solid waste if you are charged for its removal by volume. But most properties in these parts of the world can rely on a functioning infrastructure of water and power delivery and of waste removal and treatment. There are well-established distribution channels, backed up by enforceable legislation and solid pricing structures, so &#039;going green&#039; is, for many hoteliers, simply a question of taking the available cost savings within the existing system.

In places where those systems do not exist, or cannot cope with the pressure of international tourism, that simple option isn&#039;t available and hotels are faced with the problem of having to assume ALL the costs of ensuring a viable fresh water supply, keeping the lights on and getting rid of the waste products. Where there is no established infrastructure to tap into, the alternative to assuming all these costs is to look for ways of avoiding them, by dumping untreated waste into the sea or nearby streams, by paying locals to carry away the solid waste without worrying what happens to it next, by taking more than a fair share of what fresh water is available and so on. When this is done by local businesses the answer is better enforcement of existing legislation or better legislation. Where it is done by international companies then it is no better than sweatshop labour in the textile industry and the companies engaging in it need to be &#039;named and shamed&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We were at the UN World Tourism Organisation conference in Davos, Switzerland in 2007 where a delegate from the Pacific islands made a plea that any suggestions to restrict travel through carbon taxes or carbon trading, in order to reduce GHG emissions, should include exemptions in the case of developing countries, as tourism is such an important conduit for redistributing wealth to them.</p>
<p>My point above, in this context, is that what the rich world does in terms of controlling GHG emissions will have an immediate impact on the economies of many developing countries and so must be taken into account in any overview of the sustainability of the industry in those countries.</p>
<p>Having said that, you are right to point out that companies that proclaim their &#8216;green credentials&#8217; must make sure that the standards they say they work to are applied in all their operations, not just in those where there is a level of enforcement that ensures compliance. </p>
<p>In western Europe and North America hotel companies have realised the cost-saving value of many environmentally-friendly initiatives. It makes sense to save water and power when you pay by the cubic metre or the kilowatt hour. It makes sense to compact your solid waste if you are charged for its removal by volume. But most properties in these parts of the world can rely on a functioning infrastructure of water and power delivery and of waste removal and treatment. There are well-established distribution channels, backed up by enforceable legislation and solid pricing structures, so &#8216;going green&#8217; is, for many hoteliers, simply a question of taking the available cost savings within the existing system.</p>
<p>In places where those systems do not exist, or cannot cope with the pressure of international tourism, that simple option isn&#8217;t available and hotels are faced with the problem of having to assume ALL the costs of ensuring a viable fresh water supply, keeping the lights on and getting rid of the waste products. Where there is no established infrastructure to tap into, the alternative to assuming all these costs is to look for ways of avoiding them, by dumping untreated waste into the sea or nearby streams, by paying locals to carry away the solid waste without worrying what happens to it next, by taking more than a fair share of what fresh water is available and so on. When this is done by local businesses the answer is better enforcement of existing legislation or better legislation. Where it is done by international companies then it is no better than sweatshop labour in the textile industry and the companies engaging in it need to be &#8216;named and shamed&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sustainable development must become &#8220;business as usual&#8221; by bali</title>
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		<dc:creator>bali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 01:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry for the delay in responding.  yes, I agree with your GHG point, but i am in the world with a different and more basic situation all together.

in the setting i work in, the developing or third world or whatever you choose to call it, the environmental problems are more basic, so in many respects the GHG issue is not really relevant in that it cannot be effectively dealt with before overcoming the more basic pollution and environmental issues.

with regard to tourism and hoteliers in this part of the world, how can you talk about GHG and climate change if they can&#039;t even deal with proper disposal of their rubbish, disposal of their sewage, fresh water use?  and the pollution is not simply small hotel operators that are ignorant or lack the resources, but we are talking about well known large international chains (many ITP members) that openly pollute and destroy the very environment that makes the foundation of their business.  against their own proclaimed corporate policies and ethos.

this is the &quot;business as usual&quot; that i am referring too. so these issues (such as illegal waste disposal and illegal water use) are not so difficult to internalize, in fact they shouldn&#039;t be externalized in the first place.  they are externalized since there is no enforcement of the basic rules/laws to protect not just the environment and the public health but the sustainability of the tourism industry.  that is what is so ironic and frustrating with the tourism industry in the &quot;3rd world&quot;.

You cannot really face the issue of GHG with these hoteliers and others, if they still fail to recognize their own business&#039; self preservation.
what do you suggest is done in this situation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for the delay in responding.  yes, I agree with your GHG point, but i am in the world with a different and more basic situation all together.</p>
<p>in the setting i work in, the developing or third world or whatever you choose to call it, the environmental problems are more basic, so in many respects the GHG issue is not really relevant in that it cannot be effectively dealt with before overcoming the more basic pollution and environmental issues.</p>
<p>with regard to tourism and hoteliers in this part of the world, how can you talk about GHG and climate change if they can&#8217;t even deal with proper disposal of their rubbish, disposal of their sewage, fresh water use?  and the pollution is not simply small hotel operators that are ignorant or lack the resources, but we are talking about well known large international chains (many ITP members) that openly pollute and destroy the very environment that makes the foundation of their business.  against their own proclaimed corporate policies and ethos.</p>
<p>this is the &#8220;business as usual&#8221; that i am referring too. so these issues (such as illegal waste disposal and illegal water use) are not so difficult to internalize, in fact they shouldn&#8217;t be externalized in the first place.  they are externalized since there is no enforcement of the basic rules/laws to protect not just the environment and the public health but the sustainability of the tourism industry.  that is what is so ironic and frustrating with the tourism industry in the &#8220;3rd world&#8221;.</p>
<p>You cannot really face the issue of GHG with these hoteliers and others, if they still fail to recognize their own business&#8217; self preservation.<br />
what do you suggest is done in this situation?</p>
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